Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Sequels That Didn’t Happen


Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, which was developed by BioWare and printed by LucasArts in 2003, is fondly remembered as one of many biggest Star Wars video games ever produced. KotOR (as followers took to calling it) was epic an RPG with a killer story, heaps of planets to discover, a great deal of loveable characters, and an actual sense that your actions had penalties.

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Obsidian Entertainment took over from BioWare to make a sequel, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II – The Sith Lords, which arrived on the tail-end of 2004. KotOR 2 felt a little bit rushed compared to the unique, nevertheless it nonetheless stood up by itself as an impressively detailed sport with a stack of fantastic options. Its villains had been significantly memorable.

Since then, followers have longed for a 3rd installment within the KotOR sequence. Another RPG sport within the franchise is but to materialize, though BioWare’s MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic tried to scratch the same itch with its launch in 2011, persevering with a number of storylines left unfinished from the RPG sequence. Despite that admirable try to hold us abated, it is not actually a alternative for a correct KotOR 3.

As it seems, each BioWare and Obsidian have really tried to get KotOR sequels off the bottom. Both studios dreamed up extensions of the franchise, however sadly neither one in every of these video games really acquired made. Just for enjoyable, let’s take a look at what we find out about these alternate visions for KotOR sequels…

BioWare’s Knights of the Old Republic 2 Idea

Back within the day, earlier than Obsidian took the reins of KotOR 2, BioWare was placing collectively its personal concepts for a sequel to KotOR. And due to James Ohlen, the lead designer on the unique KotOR who labored at BioWare for 22 years earlier than leaving the corporate in 2018, we now have a good thought of what BioWare’s model of KotOR 2 may’ve appeared like.

Trying to prime the Darth Revan twist from KotOR would not be a straightforward job, however BioWare had developed an thought that would’ve made for an important follow-up. As Ohlen defined in a 2017 interview with Eurogamer, BioWare’s KotOR 2 would’ve tried to wrongfoot the participant as soon as once more, engineering an enormous rug-pull based mostly round the truth that “everybody trusts Yoda.”

“The preliminary twist within the first two-page idea we had for Knights of the Old Republic 2 was you had been going to be skilled by a Yoda-like determine,” Ohlen stated within the interview, “somebody from the Yoda race. That character was going to coach you within the first a part of the sport however you then had been going to find this Yoda determine was really not the nice Yoda you anticipated… He was coaching you to primarily be his enforcer, a Dark Lord to beat the universe, and he was going to develop into the primary villain.”

Ultimately, BioWare bosses Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk determined to not press forward with this challenge, which is why Obsidian got here in and made their very own KotOR 2. Ohlen displays on this as “a really good move on Muzyka and Zeschuk’s half.”

He defined that “to ensure that an organization to achieve success and management its personal future you must personal your personal IP, and we [BioWare] did not personal Dungeons & Dragons or Star Wars. Mass Effect was one thing we determined we needed to do as an alternative of one other Star Wars sport.”

In the years which have handed since each KotOR video games got here out, it seems like BioWare has come again round to the thought of creating a brand new title within the franchise. And, because the originators of KotOR as an idea, you’d count on them to have first dibs.

According to Kotaku, BioWare has tried on quite a few events to get growth began on one other KotOR sport. However, the studio appears to have been shot down by EA, although the writer each owns BioWare and controls the Star Wars sport license. It could be an ideal match, however BioWare appears to consider that greater than EA does.

“[BioWare have] tried to make it occur,” Kotaku’s Jason Schreier stated on Twitter, in a dialog about KotOR 3, “greater than as soon as from what I’ve heard. No luck.” Sadly, aside from the unique Yoda thought, we do not know any specifics about BioWare’s concepts for bringing the KotOR franchise again.

Obsidian’s Pitch for KotOR 3

Chris Avellone, the lead designer on KotOR 2, lately advised VG24/7 that Obsidian “did begin engaged on the third sport pitch [after the discharge of KotOR 2], as a result of we at all times imagined the trilogy. Even when engaged on the second sport, we [tried] to foreshadow what Darth Revan was doing within the second sport, and he wasn’t at all times simply ruthlessly and mindlessly blowing all the things up. He really had a bigger plan as a result of there was some larger manipulation and menace happening.”

Indeed, these anxious about Knights of the Old Republic 2‘s notorious cliffhanger would have had some closure in KotOR 3. In truth, the threequel would have adopted up immediately on the primary sport, too. 

“The third sport concerned you, as a participant character, following the place Revan went after which taking the battle to the actually historic Sith lords who’re much more terrifying than the Darths that present up,” Avellone revealed within the interview.

“These guys would simply be monsters. These would have a stage of energy that was appreciable, however on the identical time you’d have the ability to dig extra into their psychologies, and their personalities, their historical past, and even how they handled the participant, how they speak with the participant, the completely different powers they cultivated and developed, and for a few of them like – they’re the ancients, so that they’re not simply ruling a photo voltaic system, [but] swathes of the galaxy.

“So the locations you journey to [you’d see] how they left their stamp on that world, or that photo voltaic system, or no matter assortment of moons. You’d see how horrible that was. Part of that surroundings would inform a narrative about that. [That] could be an important, epic strategy to finish the trilogy […] We simply didn’t get an opportunity to do it.”

It’s an attention-grabbing pitch, and you have to assume gamers would’ve jumped on the probability to observe in Revan’s flight path and battle mentally and bodily with some historic Sith. But the sport did not get made, and Avellone has some concepts as to why that would have been.

“I feel a part of the rationale, and I’m simply speculating, is that I feel there was a staff inside at LucasArts on the time that needed to do it,” Avellone urged. “So clearly they’d have gotten precedence over us. So I feel that was one issue. Another issue is I feel that… BioWare tried to do it a number of occasions. They tried to pitch it and tried to pitch it, and had been like, ‘Hey, we’re going to do a 3rd sport.’ But it simply by no means appeared to really go anyplace.

“So I don’t know whether or not folks didn’t assume there’d be sufficient gross sales, [or if] they didn’t care about doing a single-player sport. I do know a ton of people that would wish to play it, however clearly, perhaps these numbers aren’t large enough, or no matter, so I don’t know what the deal was. So [the answer] is ‘I don’t know,'” Avellone stated. “It wasn’t us!”

What subsequent for KotOR?

One factor that is still to be seen is whether or not EA will ever mud off the KotOR franchise. With the latest launch of BioWare’s Anthem sport turning to be one thing of a dud, maybe now’s the time for EA to win again some goodwill with avid gamers by pulling KotOR out of retirement and giving it to BioWare as an opportunity for redemption. That’s simply hypothesis on our half, although.

While followers wait in hope that KotOR 3 may sooner or later get made, BioWare Austin has saved plugging away on The Old Republic MMO, with a latest announcement confirming {that a} large enlargement occasion (entitled Onslaught) will arrive in September for the web sport. We’ve additionally seen KotOR characters popup in Capital Games’ Galaxy of Heroes cell sport.

Additionally, how’s this for an attention-grabbing apart: KotOR 2‘s Chris Avellone returned to the Star Wars fold lately, taking a writing function on Respawn Entertainment’s Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order action-adventure sport. That title is due for launch on Nov. 15, marking the primary single-player Star Wars online game launch in what looks like ages.

Lucasfilm’s large boss, Kathleen Kennedy, additionally teased the potential of Knights Of The Old Republic as a model at Star Wars Celebration 2019. There’s been no official announcement, however rampant hypothesis means that the KotOR time interval may encourage an upcoming film or TV sequence. If both of these issues occurs, would not that present the proper timing to deliver again the sport sequence?

For now, all we now have is theory, however we’ll you’ll want to hold you posted if Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic ever makes a comeback…

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